Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/03/2000 09:05 AM Senate FIN

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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 289(L&C)                                                                                                 
"An Act establishing and relating to the Alaska Board                                                                           
of Technical and Vocational Education; and providing                                                                            
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was the second hearing for this bill in the Senate                                                                         
Finance Committee. At the previous hearing, the Committee                                                                       
adopted a committee substitute, 1-LS1525\M and Co-Chair                                                                         
Torgerson asked the Department of Labor and Workforce                                                                           
Development to detail how the program works and its                                                                             
relation to language of the committee substitute.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:33 AM / 9:35 AM                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
TOM WYLIE, Unemployment Insurance Actuary, Research and                                                                         
Analysis, Division of Employment Security, Department of                                                                        
Labor and Workforce Development, gave a presentation using                                                                      
a handout. [Copy on file.] He addressed the "Basic Parts of                                                                     
Unemployment Insurance (UI) Tax Rate Calculation"                                                                               
flowchart. He detailed the "First Stage: Affects Employers                                                                      
and Employees" shows the relationship of unemployment                                                                           
benefit costs to total wages and taxable wages, and the                                                                         
"Second Stage: Affects Employer Only" details the solvency                                                                      
of the trust fund and if necessary either adds to or                                                                            
subtracts from the UI tax rate.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie explained that the calculations takes total                                                                           
benefit cost over a three year period and defines them by                                                                       
payroll tax cost, which then provides a ratio. He continued                                                                     
that the ratio is then multiplied by the relationship                                                                           
between taxable wages and the wage of pay by employers. He                                                                      
noted that only certain portion of wages is taxable. He                                                                         
established that the portion is $24,800 per year as set in                                                                      
state statute. Once that average is produced, he said the                                                                       
amount is divided into an employer tax and an employee tax                                                                      
with the employer paying 80 percent and the employee paying                                                                     
20 percent of that tax.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie then detailed the second stage saying the trust                                                                       
fund is examined to determine its solvency in relationship                                                                      
to total payroll in the state. He told of a state UI                                                                            
statute that sets out a process of dividing the trust fund                                                                      
by total payroll and comparing it to a schedule. If the                                                                         
trust fund has fallen below 3.3 percent of total payroll,                                                                       
Mr. Wylie said an add-on tax is placed on top of the                                                                            
employer's tax, but if the fund is above 3.3 percent, the                                                                       
employer's tax is reduced. He noted that the employee tax                                                                       
is not affected by the trust fund solvency.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Parnell asked when the last adjustment was made to                                                                     
the employer's tax rate.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie replied that the rate was adjusted downward in                                                                        
the previous year and that there was no need for an                                                                             
adjustment in the current year.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked the reason anyone would receive a                                                                      
higher rate and whether experience was a factor.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie explained how employers were placed into one of                                                                       
21 rate classes depending on their experience with                                                                              
unemployment, half of which were above the actual tax rate                                                                      
and half were below.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie then stated that the committee substitute does                                                                        
not interface with the UI tax rate. Instead, he explained                                                                       
it proposes a new tax of .15 percent on both the employer                                                                       
and the employee using the UI mechanism to set the taxable                                                                      
income amount and also using the UI office to collect the                                                                       
taxes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
At the request of Co-Chair Torgerson, Mr. Wylie then                                                                            
explained the STEP program. He told how current statute                                                                         
requires diverting 0.1 percent of the employee's taxable                                                                        
wages from the trust fund into the STEP program. The                                                                            
employee's UI tax rate is then credited and the employee                                                                        
has met the UI contribution requirement. This information                                                                       
was detailed on the second page of the handout.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked if an amount would be collected                                                                        
for vocational training assessment separately from the                                                                          
usual UI mechanism.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie affirmed and stated that the UI tax office would                                                                      
collect this tax because it is the most convenient method,                                                                      
but that the funds would not be deposited into a separate                                                                       
account than the UI trust fund. He described how the money                                                                      
would be diverted into this account.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked for verification that the                                                                              
employee's deduction would not be affected.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie assured him that was correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson began to address where the adjustment                                                                        
would be made to allow for the vocation training assessment                                                                     
fund.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie stated that further implications of this                                                                              
additional fund would be the resulting diversion away from                                                                      
the UI trust fund and the lower collection into the trust                                                                       
fund. He noted the impact would not be seen during the                                                                          
first stage of the tax collection, but would be seen in the                                                                     
second because the calculations would show a need to                                                                            
increase the employer's tax rate to build up the balance of                                                                     
the trust.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RONALD HULL, Deputy Director, Division of Employment                                                                            
Security, Department of Labor and Workforce Development,                                                                        
noted the committee substitute is not like the STEP program                                                                     
because there is no credit and requires an additional add-                                                                      
on tax. He stated there are two different options to fund                                                                       
the vocational training assessment program, one that does                                                                       
not affect the UI tax rates and the other that does.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson said that the UI tax rate would not                                                                          
necessarily be affected by the add-on tax if 0.2 percent of                                                                     
the employee's tax was used and depending on the strength                                                                       
and solvency of the fund.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie agreed and explained the likelihood that once the                                                                     
program was established the tax for the vocational fund                                                                         
would be indiscernible from the many other factors                                                                              
influencing the amount of the total UI tax.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator P. Kelly asked how the credit was calculated for                                                                        
the employee portion of the tax.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie clarified this bill has no credit and he                                                                              
explained the current STEP process. He said that Co-Chair                                                                       
Torgerson approach, as proposed in the committee                                                                                
substitute, was to fund the vocational training component                                                                       
differently.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There was further discussion between Senator P. Kelly and                                                                       
the witness regarding the current calculation of the UI                                                                         
taxes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips referred to page 6 of bill and asked if                                                                        
state or federal law prohibited private schools from                                                                            
receiving funds generated from this source.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson stated that the money collected this                                                                         
year would be disbursed under the current method and the                                                                        
money collected the next year would go to accredited                                                                            
institutions. He stressed that there were no limitations on                                                                     
private schools receiving the funds other than that they                                                                        
must be accredited.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips then asked why there was a special                                                                             
provision for a transitional period.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson responded that he used his discretion as                                                                     
chair in making that decision.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips asked the witness to look into whether                                                                         
there were any state or federal laws restricting which                                                                          
schools received these funds.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken referred to the flowchart and asked that                                                                         
even with the decrease of 0.2 percent funding the trust                                                                         
fund, if the balance went down and total wages increased,                                                                       
there would be no difference to the amount taxed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hull replied that because the Alaskan economy varies                                                                        
greatly over time, many of the changes to the tax amount                                                                        
could be "overwhelmed by economic forces within the state."                                                                     
Therefore, he said Senator Wilken's question couldn't be                                                                        
answered unless all other factors were equal. He used the                                                                       
current year as an example of how the proposed provisions                                                                       
would affect the tax amount. He stated that if employment                                                                       
greatly increased and unemployment was reduced, the trust                                                                       
fund might then increase on its own and there would be no                                                                       
need to increase the tax.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Mr. Hull continued explaining how different factor affect                                                                       
the trust fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken commented that as a small business employer                                                                      
he was not interested in imposing a higher tax rate, but at                                                                     
the same time, wanted a fully trained workforce. He noted                                                                       
that this legislation does not necessarily increase the tax                                                                     
rates automatically and that they could actually decrease.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Wylie agreed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson ordered the bill HELD in Committee and                                                                       
announced his intention to amend the bill to mirror the                                                                         
STEP program. He stated it was not his intent to jeopardize                                                                     
the trust fund.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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